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Latest and greatest for widebands?

I?ve had 3 Innovate wideband fail for various reasons in the last 4 years. One of them took out a very expensive motor.
Switched to AEM, no problems. The separate sensor ground on the AEM is a huge bonus.

I have found all Innovate products to be made of diarrhea. I had one of their LM-2 dual channel widebands that was supposed to also be an OBD2 reader, and it wouldn't even connect to my wife's 2004 Cavalier, which was one of the simplest VPW protocols available at the time. It would connect to my 2000 Saturn, but while connected the dash would peg all the needles and flash most of the dash bulbs. While connected, the car would not start either.

The channels were nowhere near similar either. The reading would change depending on which channel was being used (swapped sensor connectors), and it needed all sorts of external pullups in order to get a tach signal from a COIL. The Innovate forum at the time, no idea what it's like currently, was nothing but thread after thread of people having problems with their products.
 
After 3 of 4 Innovates failed (2 LC1's and an LC2), I flipped over to an AEM Failsafe which also acts as a boost gauge and I sprung for the Ethanol version as well, just gotta install the sensor. So far, been in for a year, not a single glitch.
 
My first one was the big old OG Innovate LM-1. Still have it, still works, but haven't used it in many years.

Used an Innovate LC-1 for 10 plus years until it died in 2017. Bought an Innovate MTX and it lasted a year. Bought another MTX-L, lasted less than a year. Now using an AEM Uego. Works fine, but it's weird the AEM calibration is OFF almost 1.0 point toward rich compared to the Innovates. Tried a free air calibration and it might seem a little better now, but still off. So I'm not sure if this one is accurate or if the last three Innovates were accurate. But something is OFF.
Dave B
 
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the ones for the dyno seem to be about the best, but they're certainly not the cheapest. I'll see if I can find a link. (in general though the AEM is pretty close to it, close enough that one could make a case for transit delay)

http://www.dynocom.net/afm.asp

they just re-sell it though, I can't recall who makes it (the ones for my dyno are not dynocom labeled)

fake edit: it's a ballenger. https://www.amazon.com/Ballenger-Motorsports-AFR500v2-Monitor-Sensor/dp/B00MU6IJQE
but with the NTK sensor.
 
the ones for the dyno seem to be about the best, but they're certainly not the cheapest. I'll see if I can find a link. (in general though the AEM is pretty close to it, close enough that one could make a case for transit delay)

http://www.dynocom.net/afm.asp

they just re-sell it though, I can't recall who makes it (the ones for my dyno are not dynocom labeled)

fake edit: it's a ballenger. https://www.amazon.com/Ballenger-Motorsports-AFR500v2-Monitor-Sensor/dp/B00MU6IJQE
but with the NTK sensor.

this is what I have in my 242 and it's been great. NTK sensor is going strong after many years.
 
We had been running the big Innovate on the race car and various other cars for many years but it finally started flaking out earlier this year. It might just need a new sensor but we had a PLX lying around so that got installed in its place and has survived one race so far.

I also just installed an AEM Uego in my 240 and it “reads” incorrectly(hovers mostly around 13.5 regardless of what the engine is actually doing) maybe 4 out of 5 times at the moment... Hopefully there’s just a loose connection but I haven’t looked yet.
 
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