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Old 09-20-2018, 09:27 AM   #26
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it's a td04. even if it's a huge td04, it's still a tiny turbo that has been over-populized by fwd'ers that like tire spin and don't like making power. (oh and IT CAME ON EURO SPEC R's DAWG)
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:43 AM   #27
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This is done with a T04BV trim, .63 a/r turbine housing, ATP ultimate wastegate, stage III turbine wheel on a Dodge 2.2 8 valves with a big valves head, boost from min 7psi at 3.5k creeping slowly to 12.5psi at 6.5k (by accidental design and no boost creep issue once min boost is turned up) . T04E 50 trim wheel would be a more efficient wheel which means it will make even more power at the same boost level and wider powerband.




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That's interesting info, thanks!
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:49 AM   #28
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I mean, I say that I'd be good at 250-270, but who knows. The plan is to be able to daily drive this car so I don't want it to get so race car that it's unreliable or not driveable around town.

Nothing is set in stone but I don't want something that doesn't make any boost until 5k. It's a f+t motor so it won't be a super dog off boost but I don't want an all or nothing set up.
I daily drive my 8 valve with a efr 7670. You can make it as reliable as you want. But for your goals, I'd probably do a GT2860 or GT2871r. They're small and don't flow much air, but it sounds like it will do what you want. What engine management are you using?
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:21 AM   #29
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I daily drive my 8 valve with a efr 7670. You can make it as reliable as you want. But for your goals, I'd probably do a GT2860 or GT2871r. They're small and don't flow much air, but it sounds like it will do what you want. What engine management are you using?
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:26 AM   #30
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PM Harlard, he has a turbo that he needs to sell.... definitely would fit your goals.
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:40 AM   #31
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Perfect. I'd look at Haralds turbo first. If you don't like that, I'd look at a gt28. If you don't like that, I'd get an efr 6258.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:41 PM   #32
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I've been happy with a 60/63 T3. Cheap option, low tech. Might make it till the power goal. Mine with Cosworth turbine housing is running 200-220 hp at low ish boost.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:56 PM   #33
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I mean, I say that I'd be good at 250-270, but who knows. The plan is to be able to daily drive this car so I don't want it to get so race car that it's unreliable or not driveable around town.

Nothing is set in stone but I don't want something that doesn't make any boost until 5k. It's a f+t motor so it won't be a super dog off boost but I don't want an all or nothing set up.
I'm living through this exact scenario right now. My car probably makes 250ish at 18 psi on a good day with the 19t. It's very quick given the 4.30 rear end and the lighter 142 chassis, but after a few months, it's not enough and I'm upgrading the turbo to a Borg Warner.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:21 PM   #34
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^yeah I think at the end of the day a 19t, while an easy "direct swap", is too small. Which bw turbo are you looking at?
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:37 PM   #35
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S382 of course
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Didn't know Harald was selling his unit. That could be cool too. I didn't want to (openly) mention/suggest the... "budget" stuff as I've had insults lobbed my way in the past and I don't want your thread to turn into that.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:55 PM   #36
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^yeah I think at the end of the day a 19t, while an easy "direct swap", is too small. Which bw turbo are you looking at?
I got an s252 sx-e with a small .48 housing from AGP. Should spool pretty quick but get me to 300 whp. If for some reason it doesn't there are a bunch more turbine housing options.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:57 PM   #37
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I got an s252 sx-e with a small .48 housing from AGP. Should spool pretty quick but get me to 300 whp. If for some reason it doesn't there are a bunch more turbine housing options.
You should just order a bigger turbine housing now. I'll bet you get sick of the 0.48.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:52 PM   #38
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You should just order a bigger turbine housing now. I'll bet you get sick of the 0.48.
I don't know. I do love the spool of the 19t.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:53 PM   #39
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I don't know. I do love the spool of the 19t.
I expect you'll love some real flow even more.
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:46 AM   #40
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Put the biggest turbine housing you can fit with your manifold
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:07 AM   #41
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Put the biggest turbine housing you can fit with your manifold
not a bad suggestion really
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:15 AM   #42
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Been talking to Greg at go-autoworks and I think a t3/t4 50 trim is going to be the winner. They can put the wastegate on the exhaust housing so wont have to deal with a custom manifold.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:57 AM   #43
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They can put the wastegate on the exhaust housing so wont have to deal with a custom manifold.
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:14 PM   #44
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Been talking to Greg at go-autoworks and I think a t3/t4 50 trim is going to be the winner. They can put the wastegate on the exhaust housing so wont have to deal with a custom manifold.
if you go that route, make sure you get one of the better housings and not the old school 5 bolt housing.
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:33 PM   #45
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Alot of people run CheapO eBay t04e turbos with .63 exhaust housing. Should be good for 300 with supporting mods. I got mine for $180aud.
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:49 PM   #46
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That's like the go to for budget build, cheap as hell and usually pretty reliable, also kinda laggy
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Old 09-24-2018, 05:04 PM   #47
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if you go that route, make sure you get one of the better housings and not the old school 5 bolt housing.
He's got both 4 bolt and 5 bolt outlet T3 housings in stock. I think a 4 bolt with a .63AR should work fine. I'm shooting to have this whole thing together by the spring SE meet. Fingers crossed.

I'm not going the chinabay choo choo boi turbo route. I just don't want to **** with some $200 turbo that may or may not work out of the box and is definitely not going to be good long term when a brand new turbo from garrett can be had for under $700.

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Old 09-24-2018, 05:34 PM   #48
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The 5 bolt housing should be OK as long as you don't use the internal gate portion.
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The 5 bolt housing should be OK as long as you don't use the internal gate portion.
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External wastegate is great and all but internal wastegate can work well.
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Had that. Worked ok with a t3/t4. Not so much with my last turbo.
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